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The Marvel Multiverse

Wed Mar 1, 2006, 12:28 PM
Hey guys, its that time of the week again :)

Topic for this time is my thoughts on the Multiverse as portrayed by Marvel Comics.

Now it seems with diverging realities in Marvel Comics, after enough has happened in the prime 616 universe, it will make it impossible for the future to still be there, so as the Maestro Hulk put it:

"When your outlaw pals went back in time and brought you forward, it created an alternate timeline, time split off from that moment. One time branch is the events that led to me.Along another branch are the events which will now happen to you...you're own 'real future' as it were. In other words, thanks to your friends, I'm now one possible future for Dr Bruce Banner, unhampered by you, what happens to you hulk, is your own affair."

Yeah...I got sleepy as well ;)

Anyways, for such futures of the 616 universe to occur such as X-Men: The End, Weapon X: Days of the Future Now and 2099, some heroes would have either had to be alive at that point or a certain event had to take place at a certain time, some of which, did not. An example would be the continued living of Northstar in order for him to appear in X-Men: The End (and to a lesser extent, the entire Alpha Flight who recently bit the dust for the gazillionth time in New Avengers #16), where he dies in Cyclop's arms. Really, causality, as much as they warn against it, is completely safe due to the existence of diverging realities at the point of "divine intervention", so it may seem.

On to the Exiles, the one team that visits most of these places, I use to love the comic. I used to more than love it. There are things I did with that comic that a porn star would blush at :P Anyways, they made their trademark on being a modern cross between What If? and Shane, where they go to wonderfully different worlds, righting wrongs etc. But recently they've been visiting these established realities, such as 2099, 712 (Squadron Supreme), Age of Apocalypse and more. Ironically, their next stop is to go see the Maestro Hulk ;). My problem with this is that we've drained the realities of all their value, and it doesn't help the exiles to visit these places. I like to see worlds where an Iron Fist dictator is a cross between Doctor Doom and Tony Stark like in Exiles #24-26, or a world populated by Vampire Avengers, it adds a point where you don't know how these characters will react to the visit by the exiles, and everything seems fresh, but now its like its been regurgitated over us.

But the one thing Exiles did which I cannot excuse. In the arc "So Lame" (Ironic, eh?), they met with Mojo, who stated that Mojoverse was in fact a divergent reality in itself, meaning that he was the only mojo in existence. Problem of course with this is that in order for "parallel" universes to continue to be the same as the prime universe, they would have to have their six hundred visits to Mojoverse at the same time, and for him to act like its a new thing everytime. Imagine a trillion Longshot rebellions. It just wouldn't work. Bad move Marvel!

On to the positive, I feel like I bitch too much here ;)

Ultimate Marvel. Oh man, this is gold. Towards the beginning, it seemed incredibly forced, but seeing them reinvent the characters and giving them alternate roles in the storylines, like the human Mojo or Mutant murderer Longshot is a breath of fresh air (have i used that phrase already?). I enjoyed the "Crossover" arc in Ultimate Fantastic Four so damn much, and lucky for me, so did everyone else, and it was made into the hugely popular spin off "Marvel Zombies". Ultimate X-Men is maintaining a high standard, and The Ultimates is one of the best books Marvel is publishing at the moment, up there with X-Factor and Cable/Deadpool. I read the obscured four parter of Ultimate Daredevil/Elektra, and I can't understand why it wasn't continued, Daredevil only making an appearance in Ultimate X-Men alongside Spidey and Logan, and Elektra getting a few arcs as the Kingpin's prime assassin.

Oh, and it was established not long ago when the Exiles first visited the Papinoptichron (The Crystal Palace) that the Ultimate Universe was in fact a parallel universe to the 616 Prime Universe :D

Lol, I'm tired, I haven't slept much in the last few days, thats why that rant may have seemed dragged out ;)

Anyways, peace out ;)
  • Reading: Deadpool
  • Watching: House M.D
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saturn9calina Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2006  Student Traditional Artist
Ultimate Marvel is the only thing i've found worth reading at the moment, everything else has been kinda boring lately. Though I've only flipped through a couple of Exiles, i havent really read much recently. It's so dull and forced, like they've all run out of ideas... it makes me cringe wondering what they're gonna do now...
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JarOfLooseScrews Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
I've never read an issuse of Exiles, though I planned to. But this was before I realized Nightcrawler has daughter TJ, which really put me off.

What issuse is Ultimate X Men at now, do you know?
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Lewis-Paul Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2006
Meh, the Nightcrawler that sired Nocturne was from an alternate dimension, where he's much older, running the X-Mansion with Wolverine and has a groovy eye-patch :D

and I think they are about to release Ult X-Men #68 soon...
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JarOfLooseScrews Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
Ah thanks ;)
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LukeBatt Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2006  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great rant.... and Exiles is probably one of my favourite comics out there (at least it will be when Proteus is dealt with :/ that is dragging on) but which comic did they establish that Ultimate Marvel runs along side 616?
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Lewis-Paul Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2006
In one of the first ones that they visited the Crystal palace, there are screens shwoing different realities, with a female punisher (which might be 2099), and others, one including the Ultimate X-Men.

Thanks for the nice works :)
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LukeBatt Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2006  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heh, just found it, #63 near the end of it, it really is them :D cool.... the ONLY cross-over I ever want too see with Ultimate (from 616 or there abouts) is eXiles, that would be cool, but as they have said, no cross-overs like that unless they run out of ideas..... would still be cool
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spacehamster Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2006
I've got to agree with you on Ultimate Marvel there... it seemed like a really dumb idea in theory, but boy, has it yielded some great comics. The Ultimates is one of the books I really yearn for every month. Amazing stuff.
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Tensen01 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006
I haven't read Exiles...

I dunno, I'm finding hat Marvel is starting to become very much like DC was before the Crisis on Infinite Earths... Convoluted... I'm never sure what's Canon in the Continuity... I know the Ultimate lines are separate, good... But what about Uncanny/New/Astonishing/and plain ol' x-men? I mean, from what I can tell they all have different premises, characters and ideas about shared characters... Well what's canon? And are these divergent realities? I mean (and I haven't read it) but how does Decimation supposidly affect both Astonishing and New X-Men? They're quite different versions of the teams, but it sounds like they're in the same reality...

I dunno, maybe I'm just not getting it... maybe I need to read ALL those titles... Which is another thing I'm sick of... Cross-Title "Events" I mean, maybe I'd like House of M, but I don't wanna hafta read 3 issues of 6 different titles that I normally wouldn't read just to understand it... What happeed to the self-contained event? I mean, I didn't hafta read 5 different titles to get Secret Wars, Or Inifinity Gauntlet or COIE... They were o0ne title which effected everything... I miss that.

okay, I'v typed too much and probably made a fool out of myself for not understanding... But I think Marvel needs it's own 'Crisis"
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Lewis-Paul Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006
Well, I assumed that going on the solicits for House of M #7, Scarlet Witch was meant to destroy all the other realities, but that storyline seems to have been dropped...
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Tensen01 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006
That would have been nice... lol

Of course those of us who don't pick up every issue of every title still wouldn't have known.
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icyhugs Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I also loved Exiles too! It was like the Marvel's Alice in Wonderland =D Each possible reality/earth are filled with inspiration for fan art and comcis! However, I agree with u that things r not going well fro the title now. The magic of the book is dimming. By the way, is Mimic/Kelvin now dead? I like him so much :cry:
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Lewis-Paul Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006
Kelvin? You mean Calvin?

He's "dead" until the writers decide the book is failing. He's got a healing factor, so they'll stick him in the big glass wall in the Papinoptichron, and he'll heal up over time, and maybe he'll live. He was a great character, and the book really can't survive without him...
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icyhugs Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh.....Yea..Calvin............... He is charming and really the hero of the book! Just like Superman to Justice League, Captain America to Avengers!
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Lewis-Paul Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006
People reacted bitterly towards him, seeing his as the "Wolverine" of the book...
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icyhugs Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Didn't get the meaning of 'ppl reacted bitterly towards him'.... I guess it means ppl either miss him so much since he si the Wolvie of the team, or they don't like him for Calvin being a rip off of Wolvie?
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Lewis-Paul Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2006
They saw him as the one who could take down villains all by himself, like wolverine.
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icyhugs Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
OIC... they saw him as Superman of Silver Age!
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